I agree we arent an IDAEL capitalism anymore, and it's because of how the world is today. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces. THE PROBLEM WITH ALL THESE SYSTEMS IS CORRUPTION CAPITALISM ALLOWS FOR THE MOST CORRUPTION OUTSIDE OF FASCISM. Mate America at the moment is the most capitalist it has ever been, how many national run corporations currently even exist there? First of all, there is no definition for "personal growth" given. Socialism, Communism and Fascism, on the other hand, are totalitarian, or of a totalitarian flavor. Employee conditions largely depend on how much power he has. Total horseshit. Communism = Socialism; is Government ownership and control. Anyways I'd just like to suggest that maybe you should specifically put Calvin Coolidges presidency as the best example for Capitalism thats existed for America so far. You weren't going to convince me with an argument that has obvious glaring flaws in it. Edward Griffin; The Creature From Jekyll Island, It was about this time [1920] that the Wilson Administration sent 700,000 tons of food to the Soviet Union which, not only saved the regime from certain collapse, but gave Lenin the power to consolidate his control over all of Russia.G. On a spiritual level I could go with it. I also noticed something disturbing under the (incorrect) summary by the original contributor of capitalism as; "Law built upon universal principles is practiced by decent, well-educated individuals working on the path of growth. Which is a good thing. Btw of course government moves toward control. The best place to do this is at mises.org which is the school for Austrian Economics with its main campus located at Auburn University. Central banking creates meltdowns -- communism. In a Capitalist system private enterprize is the prized. Shame on Capitalism. We now are not limited by how much money we print. Numerous nations host overwhelming socialist political gatherings yet not very many are really communist. Someone could kill the same exact monster, with the same exact race/class, and still get different tokens for it. We have no intention of begging for that right. Capitalism, socialism and communism are fairly restricting schools of thought in economics. A socialism can be run by anything I say. Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler eliminated trade unions, and replaced them with his own state-run labor organizations. Our money, the Federal Reserve Note, is not backed by anything. They came to flee their own economic poverty.i.e irish, the potato famine. Socialism is a system of social association in light of the holding of property in like manner, with real proprietorship credited to the labourers. Why was a capitalistic country financing communism? Live a poor life with poor information. (low wages, very little workers working hard) and dont go all china on me . Can u give me a broader opinion about this? This means both instruments of labor (tools, machinery) and subjects of labor (raw materials). Bush. And if no countries practice anything but capitalism? I appreciate your response and take on things, but I just can not find any way to take such a stance. The poor people dont know the meaning of Liberty, when in this centruy already work as slaves for a meaningless pay, can you live with less than 4 dolares one day? In reality, we live in a mixed system, and, so far, haven't had any mobs wanting to burn down the government, except the usual protesters who will always complain, no matter what. It is not voluntary. The theory of socialism is a very pretty thing; but does it work? Do you not like people pointing out basic flaws in your argument? That's because America has been taken over and isn't a capitalistic country. Just saying. Also talking about inferior people and superior people is another way of saying diversity. with incentives to pursue profits. That quote is from a strange offensive person, so odd, how can you sayathists will bring destruction etc and persecution, once again, GOOGLE THE DEFINITION. Some republics are governed by constitutions that can be ignored by the head(s) of state. IT BOUNCED! Socialism vs Communism Both socialism and communism place great value on creating a more equal society and removal of class privilege. I think the worst thing isn't the completely over the top couldn't be any more bias chart. I find it strange that someone who claims to be so staunchly anti-fascist would happily use a key fascist principle as a positive element in their description of capitalism. It's natural for people to push their ideals on others. It's still a fascist ideal, viewing one group of humans as better than another based on culture or race. Karl Mark created communism as it was presented in "the capital" and "the communist manifesto" Unless you have read these you have no business smearing the name of communism. But I'll go ahead and take it a step further because I am not so shallow as to think there is no such thing as adults that are childish and inferior. That was not the case, as Lenin admitted in March 1922. Furthermore, how can a system that preaches the abolishment of private property exist in a system of private property? Grow up and read a book. It is also a question of morality as it is only right to support those who cannot support themself. It is aimed domestically at the bourgeois parties and Marxism at the same time, because both are sworn enemies of the coming workers’ state. Much like the corruption in America, we cannot rely on the benevolence of our leaders, and they will more then likely "pocket" the taxed character tokens. The citizen is personally sovereign. I would also have to agree with your opinion on how you view each one. Patrick Henry walked out of the constitutional convention in protest as he saw that the Constitution was a failed model. Junkers Aircraft in Germany literally created Soviet air power.G. And crony capitalism, which, ironically, neither capitalists nor socialists admire. Your email address will not be published. lol.. your a sophomore and ima freshman in high school. And moreover -- our health care system is socialistic! The making of products and services depends on demand and supply in the market (market economy), instead of through focal arranging i.e. The capital ‘S’ was the kiss of death. Libsoc limits the freedom of an individual to those acts which cause no unequal limitation to the freedom of others. A more formidable example of 'God' states (ummm, in the Bible), that their are vessels of clay and vessels of silver. A constitutional republic is a form of government in which the head of the state, as well as other officials, are elected by the country’s citizens to represent them. It was the Nationalist Socialist Party ... Democrats are being made out to be Communists. The only difference is that in the Libertarian Socialism case you want to force people to use the land a certain way, where the Ancaps want to allow people to use land however they see fit. I agree in general, but I avoid adopting a hierarchical perspective like superior-inferior thinking because that's not how I see the world. fascism is a whole differert ballpark. There are many examples of the Israelites going in and destroying those evil, wicked Canaanites. You can't just make a product you have an idea for and sell it. But in reality everything is controlled: education, production and everything else, just like in most civilizations, including present day America. It has been explain from all kinds of Biblical World Organized Religions that we all should be equal not only from birth but until our expiration date also. Either way control is in the hands of a small number of people. You want to talk greed and self-interest, let's talk socialists and communists. Besides a true capitalist country is a foolish idea when large companies such as google hold a monoply.Your last sentence makes no sense. What makes you or some group of people the ones who know what is equal and unequal for somebody? i personnalyy dont think china is very much communist, i feel it is closer to socialist. If people have resources you can't force them to use them as you see fit. A country is considered constitutional republic if: It has a constitution that limits the government’s power Workers were reluctant to work for capitalists in the face of opportunity elsewhere due to low land values. So if you want to point to the culprit for all those declines in civilization it most certainly is not Capitalism. Usage rights allow the equalisation of difference between regions more or less abundant in the means of production. Oh yeah I forgot! This is proven both logically and historically. But nothing stops your drive, even if you lack the financial capability. Fuck!! If you get sick the ER has to take you in. You can choose to support something or not to support something. I am so happy that this egoism (liberty is the way you call it) behind of your wonderful capitalism is turning back and today america isnt that was in the past, maybe in a few years we (including you hahah) will be talking in chinese and the english i learn in a peruvian school (where i am from) will be useless. It is more difficult for me to take "anonymous" as seriously as someone courageous enough to identify self. Capitalism make the poor poorest, of course, you can see that in your declining gringo civilization. Telling the Truth About Radical Islamism. Lol. Level of Moral required = none. I suggest you all educate yourselves with people like Milton Friedman. The Austrian school is growing in popularity and rightfully so. Not as deceptive as socialism as it is the predecessor. FYI: Citizens are subjects, by definition. They invade countries for oil and personal wealth, undermine their own presidents aims and policy of free personal health care and have the power to keep it privatised. However, under capitalism the dispossessed class are persuaded by hunger and poverty to forgo future gains for the satisfaction of their immediate needs. It's just an insane hamster wheel of debt, hopelessness, and alienation. When people came to America they adopted a new way of living as framed by the Founding Fathers. The way they handled it was very fair and balanced. ''So go ahead and stand against freedom, go ahead and stand against ethics, go ahead and support ignorance. COMMUNISM HAS IT'S PROBLEMS, BUT THE USSR HAD ONE OF THE MOST EDUCATED POPULATIONS THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN, THE US BY COMPARISON HAS ONLY 22% WITH EVEN BACH DEGREES COMPARED TO THE USSR WHERE THE AVERAGE CITIZEN HAD A BACH MORE LIKELY A PHD. corperations in america in the 40's, 50s, 60s, and 70's were well known for being owned by workers. But if you care to understand the main thesis I am making you would understand the parallel being drawn: Communism, Socialism and Fascism are all systems of control created to enslave the masses. There's a big difference between National Socialism (NAZI Party) vs. Socialism. Do not know where you get your information but every country on earth nearly, allows complete freedom of religion, besides minimal extremist islamic regions. Today's poor people live like yesterday's rich people, all thanks to Capitalism. Capitalism doesn't lead to corruption any more than any other form of government. No is not accurate at all. Soviet union had rediculous personal growth i.e roman abromovich. *sarcasm*) or lower the bar for yourself to make yourself "equal" with everybody else (socialist idea) And btw, Socialism, Communism, Facism, and yes even Capitalism are all polictical theories and ideas that come with their own moral ideals. What makes your way of equalizing it right? Thank you for arguing against the points in my post. democrats are mainly libretarians, which want bigger government and more government controlled things. Law built upon universal principles is practiced by decent, well-educated individuals working on the path of growth. These economic requirements are our basis for a national security system that enables us to be the safest and freest country worldwide. Who's to say it is worse to be born "less fortunate"? ''It's good to know them Socialist/Fascist Nazis didn't have a death penalty. I mean, are you saying that Hitler is equal to Jesus? You've made me think about some things and I appreciate that :) Take care. I have to say AntiSpin is a smart fish. If the medical field was treated like the technology field prices would be lower now than ever. I said from the start the chart isn't perfect. as of right now, we are not warlike or highly punishing as a countryy. Sorry to be rude but I'm sick of people bitching about government when they dont understand every perspective. -The market is largely a free market, but with regulation and management where needed or logical, such as natural monopolies. IE, capitalism is not a form of government, nor is socialism. I read your About page, and you are clearly intelligent and hard-working with experience and ideas worth sharing with others. Individual growth is stunted and usually reversed. Every exchange in Capitalism is voluntary. And if we ever do for a short period of time it will be taken away immediately. They control the way the economy works, and practically have a stranglehold on government. Do you realise the highly bias extremist flawed extent them quotes are derived from also? I believe we operate on the assumption that there will always be a black market, there is nothing money can't buy materially, people do profit immensely on both sides, so why rock the boat ? Socialism is the closest to true freedom in that regard as capital and hence information and decision-making is in the hands of the workers. You need to open up your mind though.I dont think you know what a true ideal socialism is. The bourgeoisie and Marxism are responsible for failing to reach both goals, domestic unity and international freedom. And from a developmental point of view, Slayerment rises to the top of the developmental hierarchy here, as he cares to be respectful to others, even in the face of extreme rudeness and name-calling, he cares to write with proper grammar, spelling and punctuation, and his ideas are progressive and clearly based on much study of the subject. The man appointed as Director of the Foreign Division of the new bank was Max May, Vice President of Morgan's Guaranty Trust Company in New York.G. Complete Nonsense. Since we truly believe that every American is endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights – among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness – then we must be determined to go into our country’s poorest communities, whether it is in the valley, the inner city, or poor, rural areas. If you are describing in principle, then socialism doesn't restrict your religion, communism does, where as if you are describing the actual reality, then Capitalism you'll see there is no such a free market and the economics are controlled by corporations and financial markets, similar to facism. The Founding Fathers set out to free up. Rich people are greedy, poor people are greedy, smart people are greedy, stupid people are greedy and Communists like yourself are especially greedy. Things are not as bad as you are making them out to be. As under communism, the state would exercise dictatorial control over the economy. You're right, everybody is equal in communism: they're all slaves. but it has many rough edges, and one of its results is it tends to not benefit everyone. I have a lot of faith in the future generations because of their access to information through the Internet and the Social Networks. But each can exist within the other in a weak sort of compromise that does neither justice. Dude, you are seriously misinformed. And here I am standing with very few people trying to keep our Republic afloat. Only an American can put up a diagram like this :-) And for the record, if you say that the worst genocide was made for socialism i can tell the worst age of slavery was made for your country and your capitalism..... thank the time is showing new ways of growing, China and Brasil can tell, and poor people are know standing up and spitting in the face of the people who though were their owners. The truth has never been a glamorous, fun thing. A person of no religion still has faith (in science),still uses the principles within religion i.e morality. how is it stealing, its distribution of people on such land for equal benefit, a person is free to leave if they do not agree with this way or vote for differant political process. 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